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    May 30, 2006

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    James Cherkoff

    Agreed. Finding the right spot on the brand control spectrum is the hard part of this new environment. If you hold too tight no one else can play with the toys...but if you give too much away people can be left facing a scary blank sheet.

    Mak

    More agreement from me. To build on what you are saying, a big part of co-creation happens when consumers hijack the brand because they fall in love with what it stands for and offers. They appropriate it for their own use, changing the brand meaning and identity in an organic way.

    Mark

    More agreement from me. To build on what you are saying, a big part of co-creation happens when consumers hijack the brand because they fall in love with what it stands for and offers. They appropriate it for their own use, changing the brand meaning and identity in an organic way.

    GrahamHill

    To reverse-quote David Ogilvy, "Perception is not reality".

    In the mind of most marketers, brands are something created by their (agency's) hard labours. But in the real world, brands are created in the mind of customers as emotions, feelings and memories of use. Marketers' perception is often not customers' reality.

    Marketers rarely go out and talk face-to-face with customers to find out what the brand in use looks like. So all the co-creation, all the adaptation of products for new uses, all the mash-ups with other products, all the discussion between customers, the "real brand" in other words, goes unobserved by marketers.

    The best forms of co-creation are not when an artificial brand can create something people want to pass around, adapt, play with, share and talk about, but when marketers listen to what customers have always been telling them about the real brand and use that as the foundation for a dialogue with customers.

    Real marketers are conversationalists.

    Gareth

    Graham

    Interesting comment but I have to disagree for two reasons.
    First, I worry about the notion of 'what customers have always been telling them about the brand.' People can't tell you why they do things or what they want to do - they're not equipped to and there's lots of barriers that get in the way - Why? by james Tilly is a great book that discusses this.
    Second, I think we have fallen in to the trap of fusing together stimuli ( product, service, communications) and response (brand). Maybe I wasn't being clear but I was trying to talk about the co-creation of communications.

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