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    memo salazar

    Handball (american football) vs world football.

    I live in the US and for as long as I can remember the MEDIA (TV, RADIO, NEWS PAPERS etc; here exists only to put the beautiful game down, I follow most leagues around the world, and there are so many wonderful news about the game all over the world if it is not Champions League is Copa America or European Cup, J-League, Calcio, African Cup of Nations,Bundes Liga , La Liga or many others to list a few.......and what do you see on the news or papers? Yeah you got it.....only the negative nothing positive.....hard to stomache but I guess I'm used to it. Could it be that Handball (american football) followers are a bit jealous? There are so many things these guys could be jealous about.
    Enjoy the beautiful game!!!!!!!

    Regards
    1 football fan.

    jaime

    the only reason why the us don't promote football(soccer in the us)
    is becouse they don't want they'er
    handball(football in the us)to be lesser populare by being denied that the worlds game football is bigger and most populare then the handball

    southknoxvillian

    Are you people kidding me? Handball? I Love football (American) but I get so sick of hearing you guys gripe about it. Get a life. Ok, it's our turn: Who wan't to watch soccer? Who wan'ts to watch a few skinny foreign guys with bad teeth running around in poorly-manicured grass? We have crazy fans in football too but the difference is we posess this thing called self-control. We resist the urge to kill players and fans of the other team. Another thing, when a stadium collapses and hundreds of people are killed that is nothing to be proud of. That is faulty engineering. Football takes intelligence of the coaches and qb combined with the raw power of the players. FB players, if they are one of the few people skilled and large enough, train and work out for years to become college and pro football players. Even then they stand a chance of being cut from the team. Just because it was started in America doesn't mean we are the only ones playing it. There are all kinds of European Leagues, etc. Unfortunately, you guys aren't very good at it so you take out your anger on us. It's like when you dress up in our clothes and drive our cars and bitch about how bad we suck. Wrong! Stick to soccer and quit bitching about our sport!

    mesenberg

    football (american) is better, its more complicated and requires more skill. Every large HS in the united states has both Football and Soccer, but all the faster/bigger/talented athletes pick sports like football or basketball while the small kids who dont think their talented enough to play football. Point being, people in america have both sports cause we can afford to and we pick football cause its better.

    I looked at average attendances for soccer and football teams. Here are some finds:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_club_attendances_%282006%29
    this is only profesional I believe, a few college teams (like about 4) average over 100,000 fans per game. And considering the population of america compared to the population of europe and the other countries of the world, american football looks to have the more dedicated fanbase.

    valerdi

    jamie WE drive ur cars and wear ur clothes? dont make me laugh!! ur the ones who buy a bmw a mercedes a porsche or a ferrari while u wear italian clothes. wot u said about us watchin american football because were not good at it is totally bollocks!! ur the ones that try to hide football(th real one) and not give it relevance so that people dont get hooked and ignore ur national shitty sports such as baseball(GAY) american football(BRAINLESS) and hockey ( both GAY and BRAINLESS)

    valerdi

    in santiago bernabeu only 70000! dont be ridiculous its always full! besides dont forget in america there is only ONE americanfootball league and in europe u have the main ones (spanish, english, italian, german and french) and the rest, one per country, that makes over THIRTY leagues. so the attendance cant be that high. in america there is 300million people to one league. in europe 50 for spanish, 50 for english 50 for italian 80 for german 50 for france 15 for portugal, etc etc etc. BESIDES the spanish and english leagues are broadcast all ova the world. and when theres an international football event the whole world(except ur little country) watches it. JAJAJ

    David

    There is no way one can call Football or Futbol a brainless or skill-less sport. They both require tremendous talent, concentration, and years of training.

    Being from American I naturally gravitate to Football because it's what i've grown up with. It is the perfect mix of brains vs. brawns. For example, a staff of brains is fixing up the next perfect play/strategy on the sideline (coaches) they hand the play off to the talent. But the decision making doesn't stop there...Every quarterback watches defensive structures and calls audibles accordingly. When the play begins, the decision making only starts. There are literally dozens of options for a quarterback, running back of wide reciever to make during the play(and this is only one type of offense). If the play breaks down every player knows plan B and how to make the play succeed otherwise.

    Football (american) is King in the US of sports and it always will be. It takes years of watching and, although it sounds dumb, cultural breeding to be able to appreciate the brains and physical perfection of the game.

    Futbol is the same. although physical contact is not a major role. But to say that a 60 yard free kick into the corner of the net is harder to execute then a 40 rifle over a linebackers hands, through a conerbacks, and into a wide receivers hands is asinine.

    Both sports require a tremendous amount of skill. Each requires a certain type of body and a certain type of mental mindset to succeed. Futbol has its many different formations to create mis-matches on slower players just like Football. The games are similar in many ways...but honestly...there is no way to compare which is better.

    Granted futbol players can say their sport is watched by the world...but if you're not american, you won't understand that we do not care.

    It isn't like we hate your sport, it is just that we already have our own sporting passions. We love Football, and that will never change. We really don't have a problem with Futbol, we just dont understand the subtle aspects of the game as you all will never for ours.

    Sorry, thats just the way it is.

    JJ

    Interesting points, David. And I agree with you. Utimately, it's too subjective to say one sport is better than the other. However, speak for yourself when you say "we." I (an American) understand the subtle aspects of both sports, and I'll take a Champions League final any day over the Super Bowl.

    Delgado

    How anyone can say Yank Football requires more skill than the original Football is beyond me. But I don't know what American Football is all about so I can't comment, in the same way that most American's have no clue about Football and can't say their game requires more skill than ours. I respect American Football athletes, but find the game impossible to enjoy or even follow. I mean some plays last like 3 seconds, then you have a huge wait until the next play which might last 5 seconds. But each to their own, if American's enjoy that then good for them. If we Europeans, South Americans, Australasians and Asians enjoy our Football then great for us.

    Oh and if there ever was an argument to which Sport is more popular, it's Football. American Football really doesn't have any sort of fanbase outside of America or Cuba. Football is literally the number 1 sport in every country outside America. The South Americans though are crazy about it and in my opinion have the best sports fans on the planet, no matter what an American says about attendences.

    Alyssa

    SOCCER IS WAY WAY WAY WAY BETTER THAN FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    RT Hewig

    I gotta tell you, I used to watch American football religiously (a Philadelphia Eagles' Fan since I was like 10). But ever since I got Fox Soccer Channel and Gol three years ago and was able to watch world football 24/7 all year long (primarily the Premiership in England), I couldn't go back to the NFL as passionately as I once had. I try to figure out why I even watched it in the first place. Well I know why, but now it's just start, stop, start, stop, start stop!!! For what? It's really mind numbing.

    moisea

    TOTALLY AGREE with Alyssa, football (called by the rest of the world, how many again??? a billion? 2 billions people?) is not about muscle but skills and brain. if someone tells that american football (eventhough its a catch game) is a man's game why on earth do they wear all those protections? they should be man enough to take anything AS A MAN...i'll TELL you one thing, why don't they try rugby.. now thats a man's game where you're likely to come out bleeding and happy if you haven't got broken bone.
    it gets to me when a small bunch of ignorant want to change our football (played as early 1820s) to theirs catching game, nicking the name and making theirs giving it a name that socks SOCCER, BUT GUESS WHAT! FOOTBALL IS HERE TO STAY as long as billions call it that name. call american football (5 seconds game nothing to do with foot)whatever you like but definitely not OUR FOOTBALL that got that name first.

    sean

    We dont try Rugby because Rugby is even more boring than American Football. You wanna talk about a mindnumbing game for dullards...thats rugby.

    warrior1010

    The most popular sport in the usa for the last 50 years has been hating football.

    Nothing makes people look so bad as an inferiority complex. American sports fans have the biggest in the known universe.

    Football is the most skilled, popular, beautiful, complex, far reaching, demanding, superior sport man has ever known.

    Americans just get over it. If you hate football then good we really are not the slightest bit interested in you insecure meatheads.

    Stick to "steroid sports" and leave football alone. Get a unique name for your sport...gridiron or american rugby but leave football to people who admire teamwork and skill over collision sports for the one dimensional.

    NFL europe was stuffed down our throats and we had no interest in it. But you didn't read european newspapers insulting nfl we just ignored it.

    Get over it insecure anti football yanks.

    58 boss

    why did yanks call american football, football??? when there is a sport with the same name, then to rub salt in the wounds they tryed to change the name of football to soccer??? dont know if its just me but that sounds like a dumb thing to do... oh wait its what we expect from americans

    ??????


    I am guessing that Caleb champions American football for its break-neck hits and electrifying playmakers. He also probably bashes soccer for its pathetic lack of goals and its whiny, diving-without-contact crybabies (i.e. Christian Ronaldo). I could respond with the typical soccer is the “beautiful game” argument grounded in aesthetics. Instead, I am just going to let the facts speak for themselves.

    Nothing speaks better to the superior entertainment value of soccer than the size of its fan base. First of all, FIFA—the organizing body of worldwide soccer—is affiliated with 208 different soccer associations around the world, each of which represents FIFA within its respective country. The United Nations is only affiliated with 192 political bodies. There are more nations affiliated with FIFA than the United Nations. By deductive reasoning, soccer is more popular than even world peace.

    American football, on the other hand, has repeatedly failed to spread its popularity beyond U.S. borders. With apologies to the 18 Barcelona Dragons fans out there, the NFL Europe was such a miserable failure that the NFL finally and mercifully pulled the proverbial plug this past summer. The NFL has held exhibition games in London, Monterrey and Tokyo, all of which failed. Sadly, American football might be the least international sport in the world.

    For further proof, see international competitions. Soccer holds the biggest of them all: the World Cup. It also hosts a U-17 World Cup, a U-20 World Cup, a U-23 World Cup, and a championship within each continent. American football boasts no such international event. This not only pales in comparison to soccer, it also falls far short of most other sports around the world in terms of international participation. Basketball has the Olympics and the World FIBA championships; hockey participates in the Olympics; and baseball has joined the international party with the World Baseball Classic. When even cricket, which has its own World Cup, boasts a stronger international following than your sport, it is obvious that the NFL is just an American pastime.

    But isn’t the Super Bowl the most watched sporting event in the world? That is a complete fallacy. The World Cup Final draws a television audience exceeding one billion people, or a little under one-sixth of the world’s population. In comparison, the Super Bowl is watched by a paltry viewing audience of around 100 million. Even considering that these figures were taken from the reputable answerbag.com and probably have a standard deviation of about 500 trillion, I would still say that we can absolutely reject the null hypothesis that American football is more popular than soccer.

    Lastly, participation levels are also a key reflection of popularity and, if I am not mistaken, the NFL left out half the world’s population. Save for a few exceptions, women do not play American football. In contrast, soccer is a game that both men and women can partake in and FIFA has even taken the step of creating a Women’s World Cup. There was also the fleeting shooting star of the WUSA professional women’s soccer league. Furthermore, American football is a rich country’s sport that requires expensive equipment such as pads and helmets. Soccer only requires a rolled-up newspaper and a painted goal on a wall.

    The people have spoken, and soccer is the world’s game. It has bigger audiences and higher participation rates than American football that reflect its superior excitement. Who are we to argue with popular opinion?

    ??????

    I am guessing that Caleb champions American football for its break-neck hits and electrifying playmakers. He also probably bashes soccer for its pathetic lack of goals and its whiny, diving-without-contact crybabies (i.e. Christian Ronaldo). I could respond with the typical soccer is the “beautiful game” argument grounded in aesthetics. Instead, I am just going to let the facts speak for themselves.

    Nothing speaks better to the superior entertainment value of soccer than the size of its fan base. First of all, FIFA—the organizing body of worldwide soccer—is affiliated with 208 different soccer associations around the world, each of which represents FIFA within its respective country. The United Nations is only affiliated with 192 political bodies. There are more nations affiliated with FIFA than the United Nations. By deductive reasoning, soccer is more popular than even world peace.

    American football, on the other hand, has repeatedly failed to spread its popularity beyond U.S. borders. With apologies to the 18 Barcelona Dragons fans out there, the NFL Europe was such a miserable failure that the NFL finally and mercifully pulled the proverbial plug this past summer. The NFL has held exhibition games in London, Monterrey and Tokyo, all of which failed. Sadly, American football might be the least international sport in the world.

    For further proof, see international competitions. Soccer holds the biggest of them all: the World Cup. It also hosts a U-17 World Cup, a U-20 World Cup, a U-23 World Cup, and a championship within each continent. American football boasts no such international event. This not only pales in comparison to soccer, it also falls far short of most other sports around the world in terms of international participation. Basketball has the Olympics and the World FIBA championships; hockey participates in the Olympics; and baseball has joined the international party with the World Baseball Classic. When even cricket, which has its own World Cup, boasts a stronger international following than your sport, it is obvious that the NFL is just an American pastime.

    But isn’t the Super Bowl the most watched sporting event in the world? That is a complete fallacy. The World Cup Final draws a television audience exceeding one billion people, or a little under one-sixth of the world’s population. In comparison, the Super Bowl is watched by a paltry viewing audience of around 100 million. Even considering that these figures were taken from the reputable answerbag.com and probably have a standard deviation of about 500 trillion, I would still say that we can absolutely reject the null hypothesis that American football is more popular than soccer.

    Lastly, participation levels are also a key reflection of popularity and, if I am not mistaken, the NFL left out half the world’s population. Save for a few exceptions, women do not play American football. In contrast, soccer is a game that both men and women can partake in and FIFA has even taken the step of creating a Women’s World Cup. There was also the fleeting shooting star of the WUSA professional women’s soccer league. Furthermore, American football is a rich country’s sport that requires expensive equipment such as pads and helmets. Soccer only requires a rolled-up newspaper and a painted goal on a wall.

    The people have spoken, and soccer is the world’s game. It has bigger audiences and higher participation rates than American football that reflect its superior excitement. Who are we to argue with popular opinion?

    joshua

    Do people still play sports like gridiron and baseball? In 2008?

    They are old world steroid sports that are not wanted by the world.

    Gridiron is boring compared to football and has no real skill or beauty.

    I guess gridiron fans are jealous of football becaue it is more popular, get over it you steroid freaks.

    Cross45

    You idiot Americans do realize that the reason the reason football games have higher attendances than soccer is because American football teams play less games. Soccer stadiums have higher attendance but because their divided by double the amount of football games the average is lower.

    real football

    The Reason why American football has a higher attendance is because of the amount of clubs there is in football. As an example, London has so many football clubs that I've stopped counting, to name a few; Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham, Wimbledon, Westham etc. etc. Imagine that, New York twice as big as London only has one club or should I say franchise.

    dude

    soccer is the greatest sport in the world period, idk y there is even an argument about it, people who hate soccer just hate it because they suck at it, they should just shoot themselves.

    Carlisle

    what is it about Americans anyway that they feel the need to bash soccer football so much. They have this agressive marketing attitude that countries who aren't into American football clearly have something wrong with them, they think it's purely about money, the only reason we don't play American football is that we can't afford the equipment because it follows that the more expensive the equipment is, the better the sport (so gold tiddlywinks is the greatest sport on earth).

    So they've played an NFL game in London for the last two seasons running because they genuinely think that as soon as we see it, we will think 'what were we thinking with all this soccer nonsense, let's abandon that and all start following NFL'. The media here could've pointed out why it isn't popular over here. It's over complicated, it's slow, it's over commercialised (I mean seriously the players actually stop for TV ad breaks), it lacks skill or finesse. I doesn't require as much fitness or stamina. Most of the 'NFL experience' is manufactured by marketing men.

    But no, they showed interest, invited American pundits to explain the sport to us. Gave air time to explaining the whole thing to us... we were respectful and reverent. So why does the American media have to be so disrespectful. You'll notice these arguments are almost always started by Americans.

    meg

    the so called nfl,afl,cfl these not football games.they can not be called football not even in fictious world.
    they have been falsely called football by countries where fucking irish people setteled like fucking america, fucking australia and fucking canada.
    people of irish background do not like english people and they think that the english are the one who invented football thats why it is a racial thing,and we know that many people in america ,australia and canada are of irish etnicity.
    we must call football as football not as soccer.any one who calls football as soccer then they hate football.

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    aj

    Soccer, the most popular world sport. Football americano is shit compared to this sport. Football players have about 15 minutes of constant running in a full game. Soccer is full 90. saying we aren't athletes is pathetic. You football players only play because you have an excuse to touch eachother.

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